just eight days left before we go off the fiscal cliff. very quiet in washington because congress and the president, they're on vacation. want to bring in our guest, grover norquist. he's the president of americans for tax reform. 213 congressmen and 39 senators have signed his pledge, vowing not to raise taxes. grover, thank you for joining us, especially on this holiday christmas eve. appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >> first i want to play for you something that republican senator johnny isaacson of georgia said yesterday about what he might do when it comes to taxes. >> no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. i'm not in the majority of the united states senate, and he's the president of the united states. if we get down to the end of this year and the only choice we have is to save taxes going up on the middle class, then i would support that. >> grover, as you know, johnny isakson is not exactly a moderate. he's saying he would support tax increases for everybody below the middle c